If you find yourself living your best life while doing stand up comedy at an all woman’s rock and folk music festival straight out of the 1990s, you might be Cinder Calhoun. Ana Gasteyer’s subtle yet grounded feminist musician seems more Portlandia than SNL. But our guest is Catherine Wing and she educates us on what’s so special about this character who many vaguely recall. We talk the power of music festivals, Norm Macdonald being a totally not supportive scene partner, and great 90s female musicians. We also take a rabbit hole into the mind of Catherine Wing, one of the most unique and distinct people on the NYC comedy scene. Is she really Cinder Calhoun dressed up in modern attire? Or was Cinder Calhoun really Catherine Wing? Listen to this chicken or the egg episode.